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	<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2009/04/19/what-you-can-and-cant-expect-from-blogging/</link>
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		<title>By: The Difference a Year Makes &#171; Adoxography</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2009/04/19/what-you-can-and-cant-expect-from-blogging/#comment-4611</link>
		<author>The Difference a Year Makes &#171; Adoxography</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2009/04/19/what-you-can-and-cant-expect-from-blogging/#comment-4611</guid>
		<description>[...] issue a retraction: I admit it, I was wrong. In the ensuing months of ridiculous guilt-based &#8220;shakedowns&#8221; of the Shakesville community, Paul the Spud (a social worker) did not encourage a woman on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] issue a retraction: I admit it, I was wrong. In the ensuing months of ridiculous guilt-based &#8220;shakedowns&#8221; of the Shakesville community, Paul the Spud (a social worker) did not encourage a woman on [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2009/04/19/what-you-can-and-cant-expect-from-blogging/#comment-3995</link>
		<author>sam</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 16:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2009/04/19/what-you-can-and-cant-expect-from-blogging/#comment-3995</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;and the poor woman who had 5 dollars left on her child support? Augh. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

This.  

This was the point where I was waiting for a mod to step in and say that she shouldn't donate because she clearly needs the money herself (and for her children), but instead they encouraged her.  

The fact that the readers were bending over backwards and making real sacrifices in their own financial security to send in support, but it's "too much work" to explain what you're going to do with the money?  That's when I realized the whole thing was just a little too f*cked up for my tastes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>and the poor woman who had 5 dollars left on her child support? Augh. </p></blockquote>
<p>This.  </p>
<p>This was the point where I was waiting for a mod to step in and say that she shouldn&#8217;t donate because she clearly needs the money herself (and for her children), but instead they encouraged her.  </p>
<p>The fact that the readers were bending over backwards and making real sacrifices in their own financial security to send in support, but it&#8217;s &#8220;too much work&#8221; to explain what you&#8217;re going to do with the money?  That&#8217;s when I realized the whole thing was just a little too f*cked up for my tastes.</p>
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		<title>By: hipparchia</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2009/04/19/what-you-can-and-cant-expect-from-blogging/#comment-3993</link>
		<author>hipparchia</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 05:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2009/04/19/what-you-can-and-cant-expect-from-blogging/#comment-3993</guid>
		<description>i read very few group blogs, and so missed whatever brouhaha is being referenced, but you're dead on here. all of it. thanks for writing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i read very few group blogs, and so missed whatever brouhaha is being referenced, but you&#8217;re dead on here. all of it. thanks for writing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Zuzu</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2009/04/19/what-you-can-and-cant-expect-from-blogging/#comment-3987</link>
		<author>Zuzu</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 13:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2009/04/19/what-you-can-and-cant-expect-from-blogging/#comment-3987</guid>
		<description>Kristin, you may not like the tone, but as Toonces points out, you clearly didn't read for content.  

For instance, the part where I said that bloggers routinely *ask* for donations.  What I said wasn't cool was *demanding* donations, or trying to *guilt-trip* people into giving.  

If you're going to get huffy about a post, at least do me the courtesy of reading it first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristin, you may not like the tone, but as Toonces points out, you clearly didn&#8217;t read for content.  </p>
<p>For instance, the part where I said that bloggers routinely *ask* for donations.  What I said wasn&#8217;t cool was *demanding* donations, or trying to *guilt-trip* people into giving.  </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to get huffy about a post, at least do me the courtesy of reading it first.</p>
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		<title>By: Toonces</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2009/04/19/what-you-can-and-cant-expect-from-blogging/#comment-3986</link>
		<author>Toonces</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 02:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2009/04/19/what-you-can-and-cant-expect-from-blogging/#comment-3986</guid>
		<description>Zuzu spends at least three paragraphs explaining that &lt;i&gt;asking&lt;/i&gt; for &lt;i&gt;donations&lt;/i&gt; is pretty standard blogger practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zuzu spends at least three paragraphs explaining that <i>asking</i> for <i>donations</i> is pretty standard blogger practice.</p>
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		<title>By: Joan Kelly</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2009/04/19/what-you-can-and-cant-expect-from-blogging/#comment-3982</link>
		<author>Joan Kelly</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 22:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2009/04/19/what-you-can-and-cant-expect-from-blogging/#comment-3982</guid>
		<description>and god forbid somebody should say out loud when someone else is shitty towards the people who support her.  I thank you, Zuzu, even though I'm not one of those supporters you inadvertantly stuck up for, while, I might add, actually writing a brilliant analysis of blogging and earning/not earning money at it.  The emperor's new clothes bullshit gets tiring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and god forbid somebody should say out loud when someone else is shitty towards the people who support her.  I thank you, Zuzu, even though I&#8217;m not one of those supporters you inadvertantly stuck up for, while, I might add, actually writing a brilliant analysis of blogging and earning/not earning money at it.  The emperor&#8217;s new clothes bullshit gets tiring.</p>
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		<title>By: Zuzu</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2009/04/19/what-you-can-and-cant-expect-from-blogging/#comment-3974</link>
		<author>Zuzu</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 02:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2009/04/19/what-you-can-and-cant-expect-from-blogging/#comment-3974</guid>
		<description>God forbid I should mention the name of the blog where I wrote. For free, I might add.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God forbid I should mention the name of the blog where I wrote. For free, I might add.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristin</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2009/04/19/what-you-can-and-cant-expect-from-blogging/#comment-3973</link>
		<author>Kristin</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2009/04/19/what-you-can-and-cant-expect-from-blogging/#comment-3973</guid>
		<description>The tone of your post, to me, came across as you calling out Melissa as whiny and entitled for thinking that she could ask for donations for her work.  And I know Melissa isn't mentioned by name in the post, but you do mention Shakesville a couple of times, and it's pretty clear who you're talking about.  It came across almost as an argument that you'd had in private with Melissa that you then decided to publish.  I don't know what the background is behind your leaving Shakesville, but that was my take on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tone of your post, to me, came across as you calling out Melissa as whiny and entitled for thinking that she could ask for donations for her work.  And I know Melissa isn&#8217;t mentioned by name in the post, but you do mention Shakesville a couple of times, and it&#8217;s pretty clear who you&#8217;re talking about.  It came across almost as an argument that you&#8217;d had in private with Melissa that you then decided to publish.  I don&#8217;t know what the background is behind your leaving Shakesville, but that was my take on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Zuzu</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2009/04/19/what-you-can-and-cant-expect-from-blogging/#comment-3972</link>
		<author>Zuzu</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 12:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2009/04/19/what-you-can-and-cant-expect-from-blogging/#comment-3972</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;What exactly does that mean, Kristin?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How am I "turning on" anyone by explaining how blog financing works?&lt;/p&gt;

Moreover, consider the "former" you used there.  I'm not quite sure what you mean by it, but have you considered that there might be a reason for the "former" designation?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What exactly does that mean, Kristin?</p>
<p>How am I &#8220;turning on&#8221; anyone by explaining how blog financing works?</p>
<p>Moreover, consider the &#8220;former&#8221; you used there.  I&#8217;m not quite sure what you mean by it, but have you considered that there might be a reason for the &#8220;former&#8221; designation?</p>
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		<title>By: Kristin</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2009/04/19/what-you-can-and-cant-expect-from-blogging/#comment-3969</link>
		<author>Kristin</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 13:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2009/04/19/what-you-can-and-cant-expect-from-blogging/#comment-3969</guid>
		<description>Wow...way to turn on a former friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;way to turn on a former friend.</p>
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