Why so angry?

So I’m reading this piece in Broadsheet the other day about a new paper on a study demonstrating that white women are most affected in terms of salary and promotion for being fat,* and against my better judgment, I looked in the comments. As you might expect, the usual suspects brought up the usual moral panic about fat people and healthcare (as do the commenters at a posting on the New Economist’s blog about the study, and their comments are even worse), but one person made an interesting observation:

In addition to the “you can if you really WANT to,” the “prove yourself” and all the other self-help that is more useful and more kindly meant, people have bought up the insensate, profane and semi-literate rage that is often expressed by men and women alike when the subject of obese white women is dragged into editorial columns yet again.

From the especially vitriolic women, I think it’s a way of women establishing superiority over other women while expressing fear of losing status in their subtext. “I’m not like that. I’m not fat. I’m not disgusting. I’m special — but, oh God, what happens if I gain weight? No, I’ve got to hate this so I won’t and can maintain my special perfect thinness.” Barf. And many of them do.

From the especially vitriolic men, it’s “how dare these THINGS not do everything they can to ‘prove themselves’ in our eyes, but instead OFFEND those eyes. They’re not LISTENING TO US.” These characters, especially the semi-literates, seem to think it’s the right of every man, regardless of how he looks, to have arm candy of his very own and to judge women who don’t meet that standard for whatever reasons. Thyroid, anyone? Water retention? How about pregnancy? Want a woman with a big belly to hide out lest your eyes be offended? Repeat after me, and without four-letter words, IT’S NOT ABOUT YOU.

I really wonder if this is the extent of it. The gibbering and incoherent rage that comes up when this subject is raised is really astonishing, especially that from men, and especially men who seem to think that they’ll be FORCED to find fat women attractive if fat somehow becomes acceptable.

Which I always think is rather revealing, because who’s to say fat women think you’re attractive, punkin?

But I do think this status thing ties into this terror of having to accept fat people, particularly fat women, and especially particularly fat white women. It’s like some kind of advance case of cooties or something, where the very idea of being seen as accepting a fat person as a human being might contaminate that person. And I’m sure a lot of it is simple social anxiety and far too much emphasis on status and the “market value” of one’s mate (which seems to be a big thing in libertarian circles these days). Because you might secretly be attracted to fat women, but you wouldn’t want anyone else to know about it, so you have to loudly proclaim how disgusting they are.

I also wouldn’t be surprised if there weren’t a significant feeling that fat women — you know, the kind of women who are supposed to be unattractive and unsuccessful at love — are getting away with something by having sex and relationships and being seen as attractive while not in possession of a body that shows proper conformity with the prevalent standards of beauty and the time, money and energy required to achieve them.

Thoughts? Why do you think there’s so very, very much anger and seething rage directed towards fat people, and especially fat women?

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* There was no effect on the wages of white men, and black men actually benefited from gaining weight (probably because they were seen as less sexually threatening or something). Black women had an interesting wage progression: the thinnest black women made less than average-sized black women, but wages declined if they got heavier (though not as significantly as they did for white women). One commenter suggested that part of the disparity could be explained by white women getting a premium for being thin.

8 Responses to “Why so angry?”


  1. 1 Jay

    I think you’re right about the sense that we’re somehow getting away with something by having sex and families and fun and generally living our lives as fat people. It’s not fair that some people work really hard to follow the rules and other people just have lives without even trying.

    Phew, formatting all that whining is tiring work. I need a drink. Or a cookie, of course, since I’m fat, so I must eat cookies all the damn time.

  2. 2 Zuzu

    And I’ve already had a troll in the mod queue.

  3. 3 Cass

    My theory: fat women are one of this (still-puritanical) society’s favorite symbols for the unrestrained Id, and are thus subject to the same abuse that would’ve been showered more exclusively on “loose” women a hundred years ago. That would certainly explain the amount of fear (in addition to loathing) people bring to the subject.

    Whatever the case, its pretty sickening to watch.

  4. 4 wriggles

    I’ve grown weary of attempting to poke around in the festering sewer that is fat hate. But I would like to state for the record that it is the most tedious ‘anger’ I’ve ever encountered. Most people lead lives of quiet desparation, this is the desparation.Yuk.

  5. 5 Zuzu

    I just modded someone over at Feministe in the “Whaddaya gonna do about it?” thread because of a hateful comment in which I was accused of “Corpulence Glamourization.”

    Yeah, it’s all about the glamour.

  6. 6 Chicklet

    Zuzu, Paul Campos wrote an interesting column smacking down a lot of the recent fat-bashing:

    http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=CAMPOS-12-18-07

  7. 7 Sniper

    Yeah, it’s all about the glamour.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

    I think I’ll undo the top button on my blouse just to keep up the image.

  8. 8 Shannon

    I totally agree with the Puritanical comment. Many people are only thin because they are constantly denying themselves food. Some thin people feel superior because they don’t give into this “urge”. And they are outraged that not everyone denies themselves in the same manner.
    I am still in college and therefore am among younger, thinner people all the time, and I know many of them look at me and probably feel bad for me, because they honestly think a fat girl cannot be happy, or sexual (or they think the opposite, that I must be easy), or in a long term functional relationship, or confident; but I am all of those things

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