Comments on: Waiting for someone else to fail http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/10/01/waiting-for-someone-else-to-fail/ Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:13:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Scott Lemieux http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/10/01/waiting-for-someone-else-to-fail/#comment-1864 Scott Lemieux Fri, 05 Oct 2007 07:26:16 +0000 http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/10/01/waiting-for-someone-else-to-fail/#comment-1864 Nah, hell, the sooner they get somebody better for the job the better! Nah, hell, the sooner they get somebody better for the job the better!

]]> By: Zuzu http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/10/01/waiting-for-someone-else-to-fail/#comment-1857 Zuzu Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:26:54 +0000 http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/10/01/waiting-for-someone-else-to-fail/#comment-1857 From what I'm hearing, she's got experience mostly with document reviews rather than substantive work, and they really need someone to do substantive stuff. So she's pretty well in over her head. I also really want this job because they have a First Amendment practice, and I've always wanted a chance to work on that. <blockquote>The only reason I’d be wary is that there is a possibility she’s not failing because of a lack of qualifications. There may be some hidden psychos that you won’t know about until you’re there. I say this as someone whose ex-boss didn’t reveal his true psycho-ness until I was hired on as permanent. Then the mask came off.</blockquote> Oh, trust me, I'm familiar with that. In fact, that's why I'm trying to leave my current job. The only reason I've stuck around as long as I have is that I didn't have to do any work for the psycho partner until a good six weeks into my employment, and I don't have to do all that much for him now. That, however, is going to change soon, when the other associate gets a new job. She's announced she's leaving because she just can't take him anymore. Once she goes, though, I'll have to work for him more, and that would be bad. They just had someone bolt after one day because she did some research for him and he ripped her a new one. In fact, I think the reason I have never, ever been given any crap about what time I get in in the morning (and it's getting later and later as I start caring less and less) is that I continue to show up at all. From what I’m hearing, she’s got experience mostly with document reviews rather than substantive work, and they really need someone to do substantive stuff. So she’s pretty well in over her head.

I also really want this job because they have a First Amendment practice, and I’ve always wanted a chance to work on that.

The only reason I’d be wary is that there is a possibility she’s not failing because of a lack of qualifications. There may be some hidden psychos that you won’t know about until you’re there. I say this as someone whose ex-boss didn’t reveal his true psycho-ness until I was hired on as permanent. Then the mask came off.

Oh, trust me, I’m familiar with that. In fact, that’s why I’m trying to leave my current job. The only reason I’ve stuck around as long as I have is that I didn’t have to do any work for the psycho partner until a good six weeks into my employment, and I don’t have to do all that much for him now. That, however, is going to change soon, when the other associate gets a new job. She’s announced she’s leaving because she just can’t take him anymore.

Once she goes, though, I’ll have to work for him more, and that would be bad. They just had someone bolt after one day because she did some research for him and he ripped her a new one.

In fact, I think the reason I have never, ever been given any crap about what time I get in in the morning (and it’s getting later and later as I start caring less and less) is that I continue to show up at all.

]]> By: Thomas http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/10/01/waiting-for-someone-else-to-fail/#comment-1856 Thomas Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:08:05 +0000 http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/10/01/waiting-for-someone-else-to-fail/#comment-1856 Lawyers don't work out for two reasons: either they are a bad fit, or they are no damned good. Maybe she's a bad fit because her skills don't match the job or her personality doesn't match the workmates ... then she should move on to the next assignment. Maybe she lacks intelligence or motivation or her skill set has such fundamental holes that she's not really a good fit in most areas of practice ... no damned good. Either way, if that's how it stays they're better off without her and with you. Lawyers don’t work out for two reasons: either they are a bad fit, or they are no damned good. Maybe she’s a bad fit because her skills don’t match the job or her personality doesn’t match the workmates … then she should move on to the next assignment. Maybe she lacks intelligence or motivation or her skill set has such fundamental holes that she’s not really a good fit in most areas of practice … no damned good. Either way, if that’s how it stays they’re better off without her and with you.

]]> By: Rob_in_Hawaii http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/10/01/waiting-for-someone-else-to-fail/#comment-1854 Rob_in_Hawaii Wed, 03 Oct 2007 03:02:27 +0000 http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/10/01/waiting-for-someone-else-to-fail/#comment-1854 No. Wishing for something doesn't make it happen (or else I would have won the lottery tears ago). So, go ahead and wish all you want that she'll crash and burn. No. Wishing for something doesn’t make it happen (or else I would have won the lottery tears ago). So, go ahead and wish all you want that she’ll crash and burn.

]]> By: ahunt http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/10/01/waiting-for-someone-else-to-fail/#comment-1852 ahunt Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:52:39 +0000 http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/10/01/waiting-for-someone-else-to-fail/#comment-1852 Zu...chuckling a bit here...and reading between the lines. It is a shame that the desire to see that everyone "succeeds" translates into "chick weakness." We're not even talking about the fact that not everyone gets the first place ribbon. It is "chick weakness" to care that one's success comes at the expense of others. Sucks to be a decent human being, huh? I resolved my issues by going into business for myself in my late thirties. Pushing 50, and I'm just shy of cracking 38K annually after paying 2 full-time employees and a revolving door of part-time young un's. (NO mortgage makes this much less painful.) Seriously, do what ya gotta do. There may well come a time when you can truly indulge your humanity, but between now and then, feed and shelter your family and your critters. Zu…chuckling a bit here…and reading between the lines.

It is a shame that the desire to see that everyone “succeeds” translates into “chick weakness.”

We’re not even talking about the fact that not everyone gets the first place ribbon. It is “chick weakness” to care that one’s success comes at the expense of others.

Sucks to be a decent human being, huh?

I resolved my issues by going into business for myself in my late thirties. Pushing 50, and I’m just shy of cracking 38K annually after paying 2 full-time employees and a revolving door of part-time young un’s.

(NO mortgage makes this much less painful.)

Seriously, do what ya gotta do. There may well come a time when you can truly indulge your humanity, but between now and then, feed and shelter your family and your critters.

]]> By: Kat http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/10/01/waiting-for-someone-else-to-fail/#comment-1848 Kat Tue, 02 Oct 2007 11:38:53 +0000 http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/10/01/waiting-for-someone-else-to-fail/#comment-1848 And its not as if you are in there erasing her hard drive or spilling coffee on her new suit before she meets with a client... you are a passive from-afar observer. And its not as if you are in there erasing her hard drive or spilling coffee on her new suit before she meets with a client… you are a passive from-afar observer.

]]> By: John Lucid http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/10/01/waiting-for-someone-else-to-fail/#comment-1843 John Lucid Tue, 02 Oct 2007 06:15:21 +0000 http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/10/01/waiting-for-someone-else-to-fail/#comment-1843 Short answer: No. Long answer: No. Is her failure your fault? Hellz no. So why should that bother you? Should you worry about karma? Only if you're superstitious. Short answer: No. Long answer: No.

Is her failure your fault? Hellz no. So why should that bother you? Should you worry about karma? Only if you’re superstitious.

]]> By: Righteous Bubba http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/10/01/waiting-for-someone-else-to-fail/#comment-1838 Righteous Bubba Tue, 02 Oct 2007 01:36:06 +0000 http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/10/01/waiting-for-someone-else-to-fail/#comment-1838 As one of the already-damned I volunteer to wish for her to be fired so you don't have to. As one of the already-damned I volunteer to wish for her to be fired so you don’t have to.

]]> By: Kat http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/10/01/waiting-for-someone-else-to-fail/#comment-1836 Kat Tue, 02 Oct 2007 00:30:40 +0000 http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/10/01/waiting-for-someone-else-to-fail/#comment-1836 I think you are not so much wishing her to fail as you are hoping for her own sake that she realize her specific skill set is better suited to different opportunities and that she should move on to bright horizons... ... thus leaving the position open for you, an obviously better choice for the job ;) I think you are not so much wishing her to fail as you are hoping for her own sake that she realize her specific skill set is better suited to different opportunities and that she should move on to bright horizons…

… thus leaving the position open for you, an obviously better choice for the job ;)

]]> By: julia http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/10/01/waiting-for-someone-else-to-fail/#comment-1834 julia Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:59:33 +0000 http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/10/01/waiting-for-someone-else-to-fail/#comment-1834 Well, offhand, if this little time was enough to have them get back to her reps about her being a bad fit, they must feel that she's a pretty bad fit. That doesn't mean she's a terrible person, or incompetent, or wouldn't be the perfect fit for another job. Apparently your agency thinks well enough of her to rep her and send her for good jobs. You can certainly ask them what they think of the company, and if they've had any negative feedback, but this level of unhappiness this quickly kinda says bad fit to me. Well, offhand, if this little time was enough to have them get back to her reps about her being a bad fit, they must feel that she’s a pretty bad fit.

That doesn’t mean she’s a terrible person, or incompetent, or wouldn’t be the perfect fit for another job. Apparently your agency thinks well enough of her to rep her and send her for good jobs.

You can certainly ask them what they think of the company, and if they’ve had any negative feedback, but this level of unhappiness this quickly kinda says bad fit to me.

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