Mind the gap

I’m inclined to think that the recent study showing that young single women in certain cities outearn men is not really an indication that the pay gap is closing for certain people. I knew it just from the picture caption:

Melissa J. Manfro, center, theorizes that young female lawyers outearn male peers because they begin earlier, to prepare for starting families.

Here’s the thing: if young female lawyers start earlier than their male peers, then those aren’t really their peers in terms of pay. Law firms, especially the big ones, are wedded to a system of hiring, pay and promotion for associates that’s based on your class year, which rises in lockstep. So all first-year associates at a firm earn the same thing, and they all get the same raise when the next year’s class starts and they become second-year associates. So your peer group at a law firm is the other people in your class year at the firm, not people your age, or people you graduated law school with who took a year off to travel before starting at the firm and thus are a year behind you in seniority.

And lo and behold, the study doesn’t compare actual peers, but groups of age peers:

The analysis was prepared by Andrew A. Beveridge, a demographer at Queens College, who first reported his findings in Gotham Gazette, published online by the Citizens Union Foundation. It shows that women of all educational levels from 21 to 30 living in New York City and working full time made 117 percent of men’s wages, and even more in Dallas, 120 percent. Nationwide, that group of women made much less: 89 percent of the average full-time pay for men.

Not that the study isn’t interesting in that it shows that the young women who flock to cities after graduation find greater opportunity there than in the suburbs, and that one of the factors in holding suburban women back may be the earlier average age of marriage there:

Just why young women at all educational levels in New York and other big cities have fared better than their peers elsewhere is a matter of some debate. But a major reason, experts say, is that women have been graduating from college in larger numbers than men, and that many of those women seem to be gravitating toward major urban areas.

In 2005, 53 percent of women in their 20s working in New York were college graduates, compared with only 38 percent of men of that age. And many of those women are not marrying right after college, leaving them freer to focus on building careers, experts said.

“Citified college-women are more likely to be nonmarried and childless, compared with their suburban sisters, so they can and do devote themselves to their careers,” said Andrew Hacker, a Queens College sociologist and the author of “Mismatch: The Growing Gulf Between Men and Women.”

Of course, that makes it sound like suburban women’s lower pay relative to men is a function not of structural inequities but of simple lack of dedication to the work. And it tells us nothing of what happens to “citified” women when they marry and/or have kids; presumably, they get mommy-tracked and penalized while their husbands get a benefit.

It is not clear whether this is the front edge of a trend in which women will gradually move ahead of men in all age groups. Typically, women have fallen further behind men in earnings as they get older. That is because some women stop working altogether, work only part time or encounter a glass ceiling in promotions and raises.

And young men in the city are outearning women in some jobs, including some traditionally-female jobs:

Young men in the city still make more than young women in a number of jobs, including psychologist, registered nurse, high school teacher, bank teller and bartender.

Again, I’m not sure if that’s a function of comparing all people from 21-30 in those jobs, or comparing men and women of similar education and experience. It just seems that this is the kind of thing that should be controlled for if these findings are going to be worth anything.

See also Ann and Bean.

10 Responses to “Mind the gap”


  1. 1 confused, maybe not

    zuzu,
    i hope it’s okay that i posted a link to your site at Philosopher’s Playground
    http://philosophersplayground.blogspot.com/,
    and took your comments from LGM on mens’ role(s) during pregnancy. i really like what you had to say. if it’s not okay, i’ll take it down.

  2. 2 Zuzu

    Not at all!

    Though you might want to clarify that the footing-the-bill language was in response to that Ohio father-permission bill.

  3. 3 confused, maybe not

    thanks. i added your suggestion. by the way, you write extremely well. i really enjoy reading your posts here and your comments at LGM.
    Thanks
    confused, maybe not

  4. 4 Mighty Ponygirl

    I have to admit, I’ve done pretty well for myself (not that I compare paychecks or anything but just in general). Maybe it was the fact that the first political rally I’d ever attended was a Pay Equity rally at the state capital, maybe it’s because I’m not afraid to use the phrase “inequitable” in salary negotiations if I feel like I’m being given the short straw. Either way, if you’re damn good at your job, it’s not a bad idea to remind people of the fact every once in a while so that they know that you know what you’re worth. :)

  5. 5 Mnemosyne

    I was thinking about this today and wondering if a more useful metric would be not the age of the worker, but the number of years of work experience. I can understand why a woman who took, say, four years off to have a child is making less money than men her chronological age. I don’t understand why she should continue to make less money throughout her career AND get leapfrogged, salary-wise, by younger men with fewer years of work experience.

  6. 6 aeroman

    A little bit ago I spent some time familiarizing myself on the existing literature on the suburban income gap. Complicated, contentious stuff.

  7. 7 BetaCandy

    I was amused to see this stat resentfully and eye-rollingly reported by a female reporter on my local news the other day. She kept emphasizing the details (”young women” in “urban areas”) very slowly, as if to urge us to take it with a grain of salt.

    In addition to the shortcomings you identified, there’s no context on earth in which the earnings of college-degreed persons should be compared to those without degrees. Like it or not, degrees are a major factor in hiring and in salary determination. Perhaps even bigger than gender and race. ;)

  8. 8 littlem

    “Like it or not, degrees are a major factor in hiring and in salary determination. Perhaps even bigger than gender and race.”

    Given the fact that a wink follows the last statement, and I took the post to mean that the education levels (at least in terms of degrees granted, L.L.M.s excepted) for a given class of firm associates are comparable, I’m going to assume you’re being at least somewhat facetious.

    Either that, or I need to find a way to widely publicize the fact that some white guy with just an H.S. diploma showed up - and actually received an interview - for a law firm associate’s position that I, cum J.D., would also be interviewing for.

  9. 9 BetaCandy

    Sorry, I was being facetious. I just really didn’t phrase it well at all.

  1. 1 More on the pay gap at Kindly Póg Mo Thóin

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